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Ep 23: Tattoos
Love ‘em or hate ‘em, everyone’s got opinions on tattoos—including us. In today’s episode, Joey and Emma talk about the tattoos they just got, their favorite kinds of shops, second skin, styles they’re into, and more. Saddle up, cowboys—this one’s full of hot takes we’re not sure you’re ready for.
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Welcome to another Demon Babie episode. You're sitting here with me, Demon of Hollywood, Joey Lombardo and emp MTV's favorite host, Blond Babie, aka Emma Nilsson. Welcome to the show. Today's, great topic. It's tattoos. Tattoo. Tattoos, everything we can think of. And not not everything. Everything. Like 20 minutes topics. 20 topics in 20 minutes. We're going to get you out of here under 30. Don't worry. Welcome. Welcome to the episode. So, did you like my intro? I did nice. Yeah. I am MTV's favorite host. Yeah, I'm keeping you on your toes with this. You know. I appreciate it. Yeah, and that would be really funny. Like, imagine me hosting MTV's cribs, dead channel, dead channel. But it'd be. That's what would make it even better. Like Dead Channel. Yet, you become the host of it to be kind of funny. Only good if you revive it though. Otherwise. Otherwise, yeah. It's like okay. I mean, obviously I'm going to revive it. HELLO. Jobs, a job. Adopts a job. You’re the next Carmen Electra. That would be so iconic. Alright. Well we're going to get to your topic first. So first topic. How do you like your new tattoos. Oh first topic we've gotten new tattoos recently. Wow. Personal topic. Yeah. Why not I love mine. There's an issue with it though. OOO I haven’t even told you this. No. So I got a belly tat. belly tat. Okay. And the problem with the belly tat is it's it's on my stomach and it goes, you know, it's a slut tat. Yeah, I'm, I am, who I am, I'm just a man. it’s a slut tat and the tail of the scorpion kind of curves into my pants. But if I have any sort of stomach, it really exaggerates any sort of line out of. So I really gotta keep things tight. You know? You didn't think about that. I gotta think keep things real tight, or I'm going to be looking at a real big boy. Real fast. But yeah, so it's fine. I still like my tattoo. I think it looks pretty cool. And I want to get more. So, how do you like your tattoos? I'm very happy. How many did you get? Just last week. I got two weeks ago. I got three. I got my rose. I got my chaos. And I got a little starburst. Sun burst on my chest. That's my favorite one. I feel like it's really cool, and like it added. That was a good move. Thank you. I'm very happy with it. Yeah. I feel like it really is like boom it is a starburst. So there you go. It should be next topic. The check-in experience. The worst I a. Nine eight out of ten times. It sucks. I don't understand why a tattoo check-in is always the weirdest process in the world I go to. So many appointments to get my hair done, nails done. Doctors, doctors, dentist doctors are also the worst. Don't give them any credit. But most other appointments, they're like, oh okay, good to see you. Let them know you're here. Go sit and wait. They'll come get you in a minute or two. It could be an hour, could be a minute. You don't know. They might not have it drawn. They might not have it ready. They might come over. I'm really good to see ya. I'll catch ya. Goes to the back again. It's insane. I think when it's like that, I think it's a day we're going to need a tattoo artist to answer. I think it's undrawn because my last tattoo, she had it drawn. She was ready, I went, I got my ID, sign the paper got right back there, boom, bam, boom. One of the fastest, best experiences of my tattooing, cuz. So I'm going to give it an eight out ten times. It sucks. But when it's nice, it's kind of nice. You're like, oh, we got it figured out today. Yeah well that's nice. See, my last one was fine because we kind of know each other already. So we had we like finished lunch, chatted, picked out the designs, sized, and we were doing multiple to so we're figuring out a couple of things, you know. Yeah. So I was fine and I knew him. So it's not like I had to check in process. It was a little different. Yeah, but when it's someone you don't know and the check ins shit, you're like, what is happening? I'm literally the the biggest one. I had this one. I was so confused the entire time. I so yeah, you're. You're just sitting in the like little waiting area, like, what do I do? Where’d they go? It was crazy. Beautiful tattoo turned out great. But the waiting process, the especially when I was asking how long it was going to take. And then she was like, oh, I don't know. I'm like the purgatory of sitting and waiting for your tattoo. Oh no, that's the problem. Or they take an unannounced lunch break when they're like, all right, we're going to take a break. And you think it's five minutes. And then you turn around and they're eating dinner and you're. oh during check in. No, no, no, no. You're halfway through the tattoo. No no no, that's not to check in. All right. Fine. No, fine I will not have non check and talk on my topic of check in. Sorry. Next topic. Next topic. You're trying to kill yourself. Editing later. Next topic. The midway break. How do you feel about that? I see if I was a tattoo artist. I'm such a psycho, I feel like I would try and do no breaks. Let's just get this done as fast as possible. But there's also tattoos that you can't do that. Yeah, they need food. You should probably eat. Yeah. All that. You're stabbing someone for hours and hours and hours. But anything under four hours, I think have your food done with already. If it's going to be over four hours, tell the person so they have an idea of how long they're going to be there. Don't just not say it. I think the problem is not setting expectations. Because if you tell them, hey, probably gonna be eight hours, we're probably going to break, probably grab dinner and then circle back. It really sounds like you don't like getting tattooed. I love getting tattoos. Okay. But I just had one really tough experience where I was starving. I didn't know she was going to be having dinner. I was like oh you don't. Really know if you can step in and you want to be done. And are we, we're, we're wrapping up. Right. Yeah. I was like I thought it was gonna be another hour. It was another three. Yeah. Yeah, it was tough. But other than that, I've always been fine. But I just say set expectations. Okay. Next topic. Tattoo shop decor. So funny. I love it, I love it I love. If it doesn't match your vibe. You got to find a tattoo shop. That does. Yeah. That's I think a very good rule. Get it? Go to a shop that you're like, okay, if I was going to decorate this place. It's going this route. Can I say I really love like the old school, like classic LA tattoo shops, like. that’s what I go to. I, I love it. I know they're like a little grunge year and like, more intimidating for women, but I really love it. Like, I just think they're cool. I love the classic vibe of it. I love everything about it. It's got the charm of a dive bar. Yeah, it does. The same exact energy. The everyone loves a dive bar. Everyone loves a charming tattoo shop. Yeah, that's got all the traditional everywhere. And, you know, naked chicks in the bathroom and all that stuff. Yeah. It's very cool. It's necessary. It is? Yeah, yeah. Next topic. Traditional tattoos. Traditional tattoos. You. I feel like so many people hate traditional tattoos. And then once you start getting tattoos, you only get three tattoos. You go, I understand. Yeah. The thick lines, they're not fading. I imagine they I don't have one yet. I'd like to get one, but I imagine they don't take that long in general compared to something that someone's doing. Single needle everything, you know. Yeah. So the more tattoos I get, the more I understand traditional and the more respect it's gained in my life. And I think most people that get tattoos go that route. Yeah, I agree, I mean, even if they don't end up getting it, I think mentally they have a lot of respect for it. I mean, single needles are one thing, but traditional is like six needles got hammering into you all at once. So it's going to be a different vibe than getting a single needle tattoo innately. Any time there's more ink getting laid down, the more respect you get out of me. Yeah, I'm always like, look at how much ink you have. Like a blackout tattoo. Oh my God, you're fucking psycho. Wait. Next topic. Black out. Tattoo, black out tattoos. I love them. I wish I could get them. I don't think I'm strong enough. There's a I remember I told you, this guy at my gym. That has it. I saw him again. He's old man. I realized. He's probably like 75 and he's got a full sleeve of, like, that Machine Gun Kelly with just a few spaces. I mean, I love that. I think it's like the armor work is cool. It looks so cool. Yeah. And then he has some tattoos under it because he was next to me on the treadmills. Yeah. I was like, wow, look at his arm. That thing's crazy. Yeah. Blackout tattoos. Especially when it's like, built like armor. I'm like, oh, that's cool because you really use it to your body shapes and stuff. And that's what I really like. I'm like, oh, you're advancing. It's not just like, I don't know, it's different. It's not just something like a. You're wearing it like jewelry, cool frog. It's an accessory. Yeah. It's more of a part of you. Yeah. Which is cool. Yeah. Agreed. Next topic. Party tats. Yeah, I like party tats. You get party tats. I get you, you don't get party tats. I'm going to start getting more party tats. Every time I see a party tat, I'm going to get it. Have you had a party tat? No, no, not part of life. It's surprising. I don't have a party tat. No. I feel like your tattoos are very curated to a certain esthetic, so, I don't know. I like it looks cool. Mine are more like patchwork, like, you know, stamps. Yeah. So. Yeah it it fits your vibe It does. I like my party tats. I think they're fun. But I also am specific about my party tat. Well you’re Getting girly party. Tats. I'm getting girly party tats, and I'm kind of checking the vibe to make sure I'm not going to get infection. What about the lip party tat? Not going to do it. It's I mean respect to those who do. Yeah I love the grind. Yeah. If you're in the lip party tat you're pretty lit. You're it you're probably a good hang. Yeah. Or terrible and. But no no no no they seem like a really fun. No. They can be terrible too. I have only met very fun girls that have their lip tattooed. Oh. How did you find out their lip tattoo. They show me. Pervert. Yeah. Next topic tramp stamps. Oh, let's just make this a bigger topic of slut tats. Okay? I love slutty tattoos. What are other slutty tattoos than a tramp stamp? The male version, which is below the belly button. Which you have. Yeah, well, I'm waiting for you to get a tramp stamp to match my freak. Loading. Here's me getting my tramp stamp. Yeah. What else? I think, booty tattoos are slutty. Yeah, I would get, like, a little hip booty one. I feel like that'd be really cute. I like the front of the hip, too. That would be cute. What about like inner thigh? I feel like that's kind of. That's not. I mean, I feel like that'd be crazy if you just have something on your inner thigh. Right? Yeah. I'd be like, oh, you are like, you were just trying to fuck the tattoo artist. I think you're like, hey, put my lips to the side and, put a butterfly down there. Oh my God. I mean, inner thigh. That's crazy. Yeah. Next topic that was mine. I said tramp stamps. Stencils. What? Stencils? What do you mean. The stencil process. How many times are you allowed to ask for a stencil to get renewed? Re-placed down, I mean. As many times do you need it? Because you're going to have it for the rest of your life? That's true. How many times could courageously you ask for it to be done? I've had the most stencils redone in my life when I got the one on my chest. But it was because it's such a small thing and it's like, yeah. It's a cross. It's basically. Yeah, it's a cross. Your crusader, it's fine. Yeah. So it had to be perfect. I think we did it like five times. No. Yeah, yeah. Way. That's crazy. But off of your recommendation are theirs. His yeah. Okay. That makes it better I think if someone asks more than three times, they're never going to be happy with it. No. Yeah. It was 4 or 5. I don't remember because we were so like, oh. I, It was good. It worked out like it got there. But this was also super specific and it's not super specific like this. And you're going wa wa wa on something. It doesn't need to be dead center, like, what are you doing? I'm sure it looks great. I have never second, second. Second stenciled ever stenciled ever. I also had a second stencil on this one because it had to match up around the wrist. Yeah. And the first time we missed. So that one took two. I don't think any of my others. I second stenciled. I’m a one and done. Yeah. We're going for it. Yeah. I don't think any of my others took more than one try. But my Scorpion stencils awesome. Because I did have it make sure it was straight with my penis. Yeah, part of the tattoo artist recommendation. And I was like, appreciate you. Yeah, yeah. I cannot think of. Yeah or anything. Think of that. Like getting the bathroom. Go check it for the thorough straight down there. Wait, so what do you think the limit is? How many times? I mean, I want to say three, but realistically, I could never ask more than twice. Yeah. Twice. I'm like, okay, this is our third time I got just go for it. Yeah, maybe I'm too nervous to get the tattoo at that point. You know, I don't know. I don't know I yeah, I think if you ask more than three times, you'll never be happy with the placement and your. What. Yeah. Just will always complain about it. I can't say that because but I didn't ask, I guess. And you're happy with it? Oh I'm stoked. So. Yeah, if you ask for it more than three times. Yeah I wasn't asking. Exactly. So next upping cyber sigilism Cyber sigilism. I've only I had something to say about this. I think it's so funny. I feel like that was so popular for people to hate on, on TikTok like last year. And I feel like to this day, I've never seen one in person. Yeah, we've seen it in person. Who. That that guy---- Friends with-------- Oh, yeah. You're right. Yeah. So we have the in person. Emma blur those names out. So, yeah, we have seen those in person, and, it's fine. I, I think if you treat it kind of like the armor work of, like, a blackout tattoo. I really like it, and I'm fine with it, but I. It's just not going to last. I don't think so. Like, with age or sunlight, but I really don't care if you want to look like that right now. Look like that right now. Look however you want. That's the point of a tattoo. Just sort of, we're all going to look gross when we're older. It doesn't really matter if I have blotches on my skin that I liked for years. Yeah. So whatever. Moisturize tattoos when you're old. Next topic Tattoos when you're old I love them. I love seeing old people tattoos. I'm like, you're fun. Yeah. You're fun. I've never seen an old person with tattoos. That isn't a fun, silly time. I've never seen an old person on tattoos that
go:Wow. Regret. They always are. Like, yeah, fucking ride or die. Let it rip. Yeah. Yeah. Old people with tattoos. It's pretty cool. I imagine if I have kids, they'll be like my dad's pretty cool looking hopefully. Well I don't think they'll be like oh look at that dork with, reptiles all over him. They might, they might, they might, they might. See you just through me. You just said it. Yeah. Look at that science nerd. He's obsessed with evolution. Documented. They’ll be like dork. Yeah, They’ll be
like:Why’s mom got 18 butterflies on her? Bisexual. Kids. Mom is bisexual. It's obvious. What's the most next topic? What's the most bisexual woman? Tattoo moth. Moth Did you know that? I mean, I did know that, but what's your answer? Butterfly. Okay, there you go. You think it's butterfly? I think moths are gross. You don't like moths? No. I was kind of traumatized by the moths when I lived in Mexico. So. OH, tell me how you're traumatized by a moth in Mexico. There are so many that were always living around the room I lived in, and they were like, this big, And they scared the shit out of me. I'm not good with bugs which is ironic that I like butterflies. It's like butterflies and ladybugs about all I like. Do you even like butterflies? Yes. One flies on you, you'll.. Yeah I’m Cool. All right, you're chilling. I don't like dragonflies. Really? No. They freak me out. Why? Alright. You hear them? Freaks me out. They get an audio system. I'm fucked. I'm running. They're pretty though. Like a picture is cool. A picture of a dragon fly. Yeah. All right. As long as you're not seeing them. It's my Tism. Yeah it is. it is. It's showing. Next topic. Shucks. Laying down or sitting up for a tattoo? I personally prefer to sit up. But I get why they’ll have you lay down. Because I feel like you're like, you're kind of forced to stay more still. Yeah. Like you're moving around a little more. You like drinking water, you're on your phone when you’re sitting. I prefer to lay down, but I'm a boy, so maybe that's where gender matters. Maybe I'd prefer to sit. But I'll do whatever they tell me. I like to lay down. I feel like I'm out of their way and they can just, Man manhandle. You manhandle me around. Yeah. Real sub when you're getting tattooed. Yeah. Speaking of sub, the, wipe off, Yeah I’ve never had a huge issue with it, but I feel like. No, I did with the big one. I have so painful. I think it depends how much, time you kind of spent in the chair. Oh, yeah. How painful it’s going to be. How much they've been drilling into you and all that stuff. Yeah, I that one was bad. My last ones were pretty fine. The chest one hurt. But he also goes spraying you with alcohol this time. Okay. Yeah. So that one sucked. Sometimes you just lay in there and they didn't have a paper towel ready and you're like, I hate when my man cums in me like this. And it's just, like, seeping all over you. Oh, yeah. How's the wipe off for you? Same. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's pretty universal experience. It can really hurt if they really fuck with you. Tell your wipe off story from Korea. Oh, yeah. I just got sprayed with alcohol. So, after four hours of a stomach tattoo. Yeah. And then she didn't want to. Five. Hours clean you. Up in the chair for five hours, and, she didn't shave me. She just started going, and she, no breaks. Five hours, stomach tat and then alcohol spray off, and, why would you want a second skin? Why do you want to wrap? Oh, you want to wrap? Okay, pussy. She call me a pussy straight to my face. Yeah. Next topic. Travel tattoos. Oh, okay. I love travel tattoos, but they're. I feel like I'm always a little hesitant because I don't. I want to see the place I'm going to. So I think my travel tattoo is smarter than your travel to tattoos. Mine is smaller. And it does depend where I go. I want the place to be clean. So, like, I'll. I'll sus that out before I get to the place. I’m less likely to do a walk in because don't know what I'm getting myself into. I see. You know. The only problem for me with a travel tattoo is probably on vacation then, and I probably want to get into some sort of body of water, so I have to plan around that. But if you're not at a place where you're getting in a body of water, is it okay? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I wish I got more when I was in, I wish I got one when I was in Japan and. I know. Europe. I wish I got few, but, we don't know. I support travel tattoos, but you really have to plan around the water activities. Yeah, you really do. That's the problem. Unless you want to ruin it. Unless I don't. I don't want to ruin them. A lot of people do. Yeah. Yeah. Next topic. Your turn. Second skin love second. Skin love love second skin. I don't know why some people hate it. I mean, I don't either. I mean, let you have an ink sack. That's cool. When else see you, then you have an octopus for like a day. You have an ink sack. You get to look at that. You just are fine. I mean, what's the issue? Unless you're having some weird allergic reaction to it, that's the problem. I mean, it kind of hurts to take off sometimes. Matters how big the tattoo is. It's like ripping off a Band-Aid. Yeah, I'd rather have that than some weird, like, Saran wrap situation that's not really doing much Saran wrap. The germs can seep into it. Yeah, I feel like it's so much safer. Amazing. I'm like, every wound should be like this. Yes, I. I agree. Put it everywhere. Put it all over me. Cover me into it. So the second skin. Oh next topic okay people that this isn't common but people that get put under to get like huge tattoos. Gay. Lame. Lame. Oh, losers. Yeah, I'm fine with numbing cream, but I'm not okay if you're getting fully put down. Like, bro, I. Don't have that many tattoos. both of us. We really don't compare to a lot of people. But you can't be putting yourself under. That's criminal. That's crazy. It seems so silly. I mean, and it's so many of these, like, pro athletes that are doing it, and I'm like, you guys are so like alpha, like pro athletes, like, don't you want to be like and everyone knows you like if I did that, like NDAs all around, like, nobody's knowing that I just had to go under for this. But everybody knows because you literally one day have nothing At that point its gender affirming surgery. Yeah. You want everyone to see you a certain way. Yeah. Yeah. And you had to get put under for it. Yeah. Because you literally they always have nothing. And then they come out literally neck down tattoos. And I'm just like, it’s gotta hurt the next day. I mean it probably still is so much. Pain 100%. So much body healing. Oh, yeah. You're back. You backs gotta I feel like shit. But, like, I don't know how you keep that clean. You just try. You have to have somebody help you. I don't really know how you do a back tat. Yeah, clean back tat or anything like that. No, because I don't have that many tattoos. And I probably shouldn't be talking about this topic, but whatever. Here we are. Here we are. We like tattoos. And we like topics. And I think that's all of it. That's a pretty good rundown. I mean, we can always come back. I think next time we're going to do this, we're going to get a numbing cream sponsor and get tattoos while we podcast, which might be hard mic wise But we'll figure that out down the road. Yeah. I mean we'll get a little clip mix and then we'll just talk. But we'll get some tattoo artists that want to come and do it and it’ll be fun. listen to our stupid. No they'll contribute. They'll talk. We gotta mic them up or are we just going to hand over. Probably just hand it. We'll get into the details on our own time. Not yours. Tune back in for our next one. It won't be that, but stay tuned for our next tattoo topic episode. And thanks for listening. Like, subscribe. And, Drop your topics that you want to hear below. Oh, yeah. Tell me what topics you want. We'll talk about them. That's Emma that's Joey, and that is Demon Babie. Good night. Bye.